This is a conversation with Kate Zen. She’s an organiser with Red Canary Song, a US-based grassroots Asian sex workers coalition. They also organise transnationally with Asian sex workers across the diaspora in Toronto, Paris, and Hong Kong.

“There are over 9000 workplaces like these across the country with no political representation, or access to labor rights or collective organizing. Anti-trafficking NGO’s that claim to speak for migrants in sex trades promote increased policing and immigration control, which harms rather than helps migrant sex workers.”

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Additional links:

• Red Canary Song’s resources for workers: digital library of resources compiled for the benefit of Asian migrant communities, sex working communities, and the overlap between the two of them. This digital library is updated regularly.
• How to get involved

And this is the webinar that I mentioned in the beginning of the episode: