
These days, the apocalypse has been on my mind a lot. Maybe that’s not surprising, given the state of the world. This can easily descend into dread and hopelessness, which is something I try and avoid for my own sake. When I picked up Moon of the Crusted Snow and Moon of the Turning Leaves, written by my guest Waubgeshig Rice, in a bookshop in Ottawa, I didn’t know what to expect. I’ve always been into ‘post-apocalyptic’ stories, but I soon found out that there was something different about this cast of characters: their people, the Anishinaabe, had already survived multiple apocalypses at the hands of the Canadian state. In this episode, Waubgeshig and I spoke about the Whitesky saga books, the ongoing wildfires, passing on traditions, learning Ojibwe and teaching it to his kids, Gaza, how the father-daughter relationship in the books inspired my own relationship, and so much more.
Waubgeshig’s Recommendations:
County Road Six by Kevin Hardcastle
Buffalo Hunter Hunter by Stephen Graham Jones
The Sorceress of Sky Serpents by Eden Robinson
This episode was first released on Patreon on 11 August 2026, a day after recording.
The video version is also premiering today.
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