Beyond the Apocalypse w/ Waubgeshig Rice (E221)

These days, the apocalypse has been on my mind a lot. Maybe that’s not surprising, given the state of the world. This can easily descend into dread and hopelessness, which is something I try and avoid for my own sake. When I picked up⁠ Moon of the Crusted Snow⁠ and⁠ Moon of the Turning Leaves⁠, written by my guest Waubgeshig Rice, in a bookshop in Ottawa, I didn’t know what to expect. I’ve always been into ‘post-apocalyptic’ stories, but I soon found out that there was something different about this cast of characters: their people, the Anishinaabe, had already survived multiple apocalypses at the hands of the Canadian state. In this episode, Waubgeshig and I spoke about the Whitesky saga books, the ongoing wildfires, passing on traditions, learning Ojibwe and teaching it to his kids, Gaza, how the father-daughter relationship in the books inspired my own relationship, and so much more.

Waubgeshig’s Recommendations:

⁠⁠County Road Six⁠⁠ by Kevin Hardcastle

⁠⁠Buffalo Hunter Hunter⁠⁠ by Stephen Graham Jones  

⁠⁠The Sorceress of Sky Serpents⁠⁠ by Eden Robinson

This episode was first released ⁠⁠on Patreon⁠⁠ on 11 August 2026, a day after recording.


The video version is also premiering today.


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