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In episode 145, Daniel and Joey host a conversation between two Arab Jewish activists Hadar Cohen and Dahab Kashi, exploring the radical power of Arab Jewish perspectives. Often seen as mutually exclusive identities, the existence and experience of Arab Jews transcends the narrow, and violent, confines of both Zionism and Arab Nationalism. The artist Yossi Zabari spoke about the power of the ‘hyphen connecting Arab and Jew’, and in this episode we explore the potential that acknowledging that hyphen has in our current critical moment.

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Recommendations

• Three Worlds: Memoirs of an Arab-Jew – Avi Shlaim
• Hadar Cohen’s Website
• Yossi Zabari & Anat Fort – To See or Not to See

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• You can follow Dahab on: ⁠Instagram

Episode Credits

Host: Joey Ayoub
Producer: Ayman Makarem
Music: Rap and Revenge
Main theme design: Wenyi Geng
Sound editor: Ayman Makarem
Episode design: Joey Ayoub