This is a conversation with Justin Salhani of ‘Oh My Goal’ and Musa Okwonga (his 4th time on the pod) of ‘Stadio‘ about football, politics and human rights. We talked about the upcoming world cup in Qatar, the role of dirty money in football (including Russian, Emirati and Saudi) and what might come next.

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Recommended Books:

• The Ball is Round: A Global History of Soccer by David Goldblatt (Musa)
• Soccer in Sun and Shadow by Eduardo Galeano (Musa)
• Football Against the Enemy by Simon Kuper (Musa)
• You Have Not Yet Been Defeated by Alaa Abd El-Fattah (Justin)
• The Queue by Basma Abdel Aziz (Justin)
• The Billionaires Club: The Unstoppable Rise of Football’s Super-rich Owners by James Montague (Justin)